First stop for all herpes information.

This section is now open to all registered members. I am not demanding people donate before giving access to the entire forum but you will notice there are no advertisements on this forum like all the other forums and because you do not need me to cure HSV I have no way to benefit from you being cured using the drug. In short if you do not donate I am paying to inform you and that will put me in the hole and without donations I will close the forum.

I am the individual who personally discovered that there is no scientific evidence whatsoever to support the existence of a so called Herpes virus. Today’s medicine is not a science it is an industry and the industry functions more profitably if people believe they have science fictional viruses.

I am also the person who discovered that most outbreaks blamed on a so called “virus” are indeed caused by fungus. This knowledge makes outbreaks VERY easy to cure. In this forum you have many options useful for eliminating the disease known as “Herpes”. A cure for what is known as “herpes” is guaranteed or donations will be refunded. No one can prove a “herpes” virus exist which doesn’t matter when the disease is easily cured.

You have several choices, you can use the drug information inside this section at your convenience which will cure upwards to 85% of all so-called “herpes” outbreaks or you can use your immune system with proper training and be cured of all so-called “herpes” outbreaks. When you use your immune system you are not only cured you are IMMUNE to so-called “herpes” outbreaks.

Before you can get the drug you need to cure supposed “herpes” you need to be educated in order to get a prescription from your doctor and that is what I provide through this forum as well as the option of complete immunity.

There is a 10 to 25% chance the drug will not cure you and if that happens, you will have no choice but to use your immune system and I will not be around to offer you immunity if people do not help pay to keep this forum up.

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Postby David » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:11 pm

There is no evidence that herpes is sexually transmitted. Blaming a past lover for herpes is not a wise way to approach being cured. Every single living animal ALREADY has the pathogen/pathogens that can cause OBs. Herpes is a result of a failing primary immune response not sex. Most people have sex which means it is easy for a corrupt medical industry to blame it on sex and create self judgment and personal blame. Fact is most people have sex under immense stress, after long active day, a long night of drinking and rich dining, some dancing and then have sex at the worst possible time, as in the middle of the night when they should be asleep and letting their immune system get back on task. 80% of human immunity takes place in rim sleep. Anyone engaged in physical activity while they should be sleeping is at serious risk of negating and destroying their primary immune defense. With that being said, stress, drinking, rich food, lack of sleep are the real causes of herpes not sex. Please do not accuse people of giving you herpes; it is a false belief which could prevent you from ever getting your primary immune response restored.

Herpes is easily cured because most of the time, the sores known as herpes are caused by fungus. There simply is no scientific evidence that a herpes virus even exist. For that matter there is no scientific evidence that any species of viral pathogen exist. You have never seen one in the flesh, your doctor has never seen one in the flesh and the professors who trained your doctor have never seen one in the flesh. If a person feels they have seen a virus under a microscope it is because they were told what they were looking at was believed to be a virus. That is a hypothesis, not a fact.

You might ask why the medical industry would create a fictional pathogen but you should be asking why they would not create a fictional pathogen. A fictional pathogen can never be cured and ensures an everlasting highly profitable industry. The false creation of HSV and HIV serves two social necessities and it is hard to say which is more important to us all, the first being obviously the billions of dollars of profit each year supporting our economy and the second being the fear of fictionally catching either one through unprotected sex which has done more for controlling the population than any other attempted population control. Keep in mind, HSV and HIV are not sexually transmitted, but the fear propaganda associated with the two has lead to more consistent condom use and less pregnancies.

Herpes test detect one of five human antibodies. Understand this, your body can create only five antibodies and it is scientifically absurd to suggest the IgG antibody can only be a result of the presence one particular pathogen so your positive HSV test has no bearing on your condition other than it shows your primary immune defense is down hence the resulting production of antibodies for immunity. When a person has a fully functioning primary immune response they simply have no need to create antibodies for a defense and though a person with a primary immune defense still has the pathogen/pathogens that are capable of creating OB like sores, their immune system is capable of preventing the sores or pathogens from having their way. A person with simple allergies to cats or nuts will most likely test positive for the IgG antibody even if they do not have any signs or symptoms of HSV or HIV also known as asymptomatic. However they are at risk of having HSV like signs and symptoms and all that needs to happen for them to show it is for them to stay up all night after a long hard work week or after a long night of drinking and dancing when they should be sleeping.

Because HSV is a fungal condition most of the time the drug Lamisil Tablets and its generic forms will cure most of the people with OBs. For those of you with nail fungus you simply need to go get a prescription for your nail fungus through your doctor. For those of you who do not have nail fungus you will have a tougher time getting Lamisil. Early members of this forum were able to buy Lamisil online but it seems to be getting tougher which was expected. The medical industry wishes the public to maintain the belief that HSV is incurable so I knew it was only a matter of time before they made getting Lamisil legally online impossible. Soon they will find a way to prevent people with nail fungus and HSV from getting Lamisil. They simply do not have a choice.

There are several factors that will play a role in how much Lamisil one must take and for how long. Every year a person exists they have another year’s accumulation of fungus. More than likely weight will play a role in how much Lamisil is required. Stress, diet and other existing condition will also affect the amount of Lamisil possibly required.

My research shows that those who suffer from nail fungus and chronic OBs and are still in their youth without any other conditions have the most efficient results with Lamisil. Add any of the above factors and the efficiency goes down but it will still cure HSV. There will be a few of you who have something altogether different causing your OB/sores. Lamisil may not work at all for you. The sores could be resulting from a hormonal and or testosterone imbalance or other bodily malfunction such as internal allergic reactions.

The surest way to eliminate OBs, sores and restore the primary immune function and defense is to learn to control your immune system through learning how to practice True Cures Healing. This cannot be taught online, through books or video. It can only be taught in person through me. In a perfect world your parents would have taught you but to do so would destroy society as we know it. The science of immunity is completely ignored by mainstream science and medicine for reasons you and I cannot dispute or disrespect. To teach and perfect human immunity or for humans to actually evolve instead of devolve as we do now will destroy yours and my way of life. The economy is bad now but it would cease to exist if we turned to promoting immunity over western medicine and alternative medicine. If the science of immunity was adopted there would be no more cancer, heart disease, diabetes, AIDS, Lyme disease, aneurysms, strokes or any other deadly diseases and again the population would explode and the world economy would fall.

That is why you have been inundated with western and alternative medicine instead of actual healing and cures. I am not against effective medicine and taking pills. I am against all ineffective medicine. We should cherish the advancements in trauma medicine along with its technology but when it comes to disease and illness we humans are intended to be healthy without any modern technology and today’s medical industry is indeed preventing proper health. Everything you think you know about your health is false which is why what you know has never led to a cure or better health. I have posted this kind of information all over the internet and NO ONE has attempted to dispute it or try to rationalize how today’s medical industry could take an interest in cures.

I started a petition to get people to demand real science and real cures but it has been a total flop and waste of time. People prefer to protect their way of life. I have lived a life of virtual poverty because of my research and because of this cause. If society cannot come together and discuss means of existing without disease and unnecessary suffering I have truly wasted nineteen years of my life trying to cure and save you.

In person I can have you cured of any disease without any modern technology or products. It will require discipline and dedication but it will be FAR more efficient than using Lamisil or other drugs, just not as convenient. The science of healing and immunity is my passion and I am resigning myself to the fact that it is an unwanted science. MAKE NO MISTAKE, you can be cured of herpes even if Lamisil doesn't work so put your mind at ease. If Lamisil doesn't work, with participation we might find another prescription fungicide or you can knuckle down and see me in person for an absolute cure and complete immunity.

It has been my desire to teach people to use their immune system through True Cures Healing so you all could have someone near you to see. This may be unrealistic because of the financial impracticalities. However I am working on a means for people to make a living through being educated in the science of immunity. I will offer more on this as I get the details worked out.

If anyone is interested in learning the science of immunity and True Cures Healing I ask that you take a proactive stance and use the True Cures section of this forum. I can’t train you to be perfect but I could possible lay down some important ground work. I could post more video but that will take much much more of my time and I am working six days a week to fund my own research, research I don’t need because I have everything I need to be healthy except quality of life due to poverty. If you are interested in immunity and healing you must give up your belief in all current medicine, ESPECIALLY alternative medicine. Any alternative medical belief or support is a serious distraction from truthful science. Every natural or alternative product or gadget is PURE placebo. This doesn’t mean it does not lead to some occasional cures, it simply means that the person cured inadvertently used their immune system meaning they lucked into a True Cures Healing Response. It was not the product or gadget. It was my wiliness to acknowledge that natural and alternative medicine is complete placebo that allowed me to learn the science of immunity and how to consistently cure disease. It will be your first step as well.
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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby David » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:18 pm

For anyone over 40 with cold sores three months of Lamisil isn't proving to be enough or Lamisil is ineffective. The only research for curing herpes is here on this forum, no one else is even remotely interested in you being cured. No one donates to my research efforts, no one provides me with a team and I get very little feedback which is from people I am not likely to meet. I think we can consider Lamisil to be closer to 90% effective and the older a person is the less effective it will be. That doesn't mean it will not work, it means the research hasn't been met. People in their 40's are at a delicate point in their lives, everyone of you over 40 are only a few test away from being diagnosed with cancer and that is most likely the reason the Lamisil is not as efficient for you.

We live in a society with completely ineffective medicine yet consumers consider themselves healthy until they are diagnosed with something, what people are not aware of is the fact that all consumers are already laden with the disease they will suffer and die from, they just do not show the signs and symptoms of the deadly disease yet.

For you to be cured you have to put your emotions aside and stick with science and knowledge not medical science fiction hearsay.
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Postby David » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:44 am

Here is what I want to do. If there is no participation I plan on shutting this forum down.

Quick summary of Lamisil and herpes, if a person is a kid and has chronic OBs Lamisil will be most effective. If a person is older than 30 the Lamisil may or may not be completely effective however the Lamisil will likely save their lives from more life threatening diseases which will still give them a chance to cure themselves of what is known as herpes with more effective means. For those of you who are having cold sores or occasional OBs the likely cause is bodily reaction similar to an allergy reaction. There is very little chance that a cold sore or occasional minor OB is caused by any kind of pathogen.

Some people who use Lamisil who have minor OBs will effectively cure themselves but it will be indirectly. They will cure themselves because they will eliminate enough pathogens because of the Lamisil for their own immune response to reengage.

Here is my proposition and the only way I will be leaving this forum up. I suggest anyone wanting to be cured of what is known as herpes find themselves a local practitioner of Total Body Modification, someone I can walk through in curing you. PAY ATTENTION, a person who practices TBM without my coaching will not be able to cure you. You will waste your money. You will need to contact people who are trained in TBM and see if they are open to being trained to cure you and then I will do my best to coach them through curing you. I will not do this for free so either you or the practitioner is going to have to make a donation. If they are willing you can be cured in as little as two weeks.
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Postby David » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:21 pm

yoyo911 wrote:hi d

is that mean that lamisil will not cure herpes for the peopole older than 30 i am 46 year old and i am in lamisil for 3 week and i take 1 in the morning and 1 in the night and i dont know if that is ok or no but i am dowing it and i have ob in this week so what can you a dvice me to do and what food i must eat and not to eat thank you for your help


All I can go on is based on feedback from others which I have shared here. It is not uncommon for people to have OBs during the first couple of weeks, after 4 weeks it is sign that Lamisil may not work. I don't have anyway to know if taking two pills is more effective than one a day. A couple people have tried two pills a day without success.

The bottom line depends on if the OB is from a pathogen or is a reaction and the only way I can tell is if you see me in person. For anyone else reading this, Lamisil seems to work best on the really chronic OBs that cover a lot of surface area and last for very long times. The smaller and short lived OBs seem to be more of a reaction that comes on fast and goes away and in no way related to any pathogen or virus.

The only 100% sure cure is using the immune system, I'm sorry it is not more convenient. Because Lamisil is effective for the masses it makes it very difficult for me to promote immunity for those of you that do not get cured with Lamisil. I'm sorry, we live in a world that is limited to convenience. Maybe when Lamisil has failed enough people they will come together and promote immunity for all to enjoy.
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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby David » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:57 am

yoyo911 wrote:hi d
i like to see you but i am not in usa i am far away from use in the mde so what can i do if you can help

thank you


Yes that is a problem and the reason I would like to see more interest in the EVOLUTION and the power of the human body minus all the woo woo hamana hamana spiritual propaganda and products. I seriously doubt I can teach people over the internet but I can't rule it out without trying. I do know if it is possible it will take a great deal of trial and error and much time.

As it is, the world seems to be incapable of practical personal relationships. It seems to me society is incapable of putting two like minded people together for the betterment of the human race. For me to ATTEMPT to teach people over the internet I will need enough people paired up as partners in order to receive instructions for the process of learning online. A lone person will never learn to use their immune system, it is impossible.

All I can suggest to you is what I consider common sense. Sleep more, find peace of mind, drink more clean water, do not use antiperspirants, avoid stress and if you are using Lamisil do what you can to consume minimal amounts of carbohydrates and sugars. If avoiding carbs and sugars is stressful it will negate or prevent healing because of the stress. I would only take one Lamisil tablet a day if I were you.

Your immune system wants to provide you immunity, without meeting me all you can do is adjust your lifestyle in hopes of strengthening your immune system without ever learning to control it directly. Happy stress free people are always healthier than stressed people. The answer to happiness is to learn to live and be happy with less, a huge sacrifice for most.
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Postby tbone66 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:56 pm

I am 2 weeks into taking Lamisil and I am having an outbreak the last few days. The bumps are smaller but it seems like there are more of them. As has been suggested, this OB may be due to some heightened stress recently and less sleep. I am a 46 year old male, 250 lbs, so maybe I need bigger dosage or more time. Or maybe I just have a lot of garbage in my body that needs to be taken out first. I have been using Lotrimin on the bumps that appear to try to make them go away quicker. I have only had this condition since November and just recently began thinking it may be herpes. I haven't had a test so I don't know for sure but the symptoms seem to match. My biggest fear now is to not infect the rest of the family. As you can imagine this worries me a lot. I bought the generic Lamisil, Terbinafine from www.easy-to-use-pharmacy.com. The taste is really nonexistent and I haven't noticed a smell to the tablets. Should they have a smell to be the real deal?
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Postby David » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:16 am

tbone66 wrote:I am 2 weeks into taking Lamisil and I am having an outbreak the last few days. The bumps are smaller but it seems like there are more of them. As has been suggested, this OB may be due to some heightened stress recently and less sleep. I am a 46 year old male, 250 lbs, so maybe I need bigger dosage or more time. Or maybe I just have a lot of garbage in my body that needs to be taken out first. I have been using Lotrimin on the bumps that appear to try to make them go away quicker. I have only had this condition since November and just recently began thinking it may be herpes. I haven't had a test so I don't know for sure but the symptoms seem to match. My biggest fear now is to not infect the rest of the family. As you can imagine this worries me a lot. I bought the generic Lamisil, Terbinafine from http://www.easy-to-use-pharmacy.com. The taste is really nonexistent and I haven't noticed a smell to the tablets. Should they have a smell to be the real deal?


It is probably likely you have the real product. Two week outbreaks have been very common for those who lamisil cured. I don't have the funding and the ability to research dosages one would take for size variations. The OB's you are describing are not the kind that are consistently cured by Lamisil. There is no doubt you will test positive but most of your family will too it has nothing to do with your sores or their lack of sores.

Stress and rich foods also make pimples, pimples that can be affected by changes in testosterone and hormones. There isn't a single OB caused by a virus, at least it cannot be proved. Most likely your OBs are a result of your body failing in it's functions. If you have many other fungal symptoms it may be that the Lamisil will eliminate enough to allow your body to get the upper hand and you may again be symptom free. There is no reason to worry about spreading anything to your family, they already have it and have always had it. If that was not a fact I would have been hauled off to court a long time ago. Fear and stress are the cause of your suffering and it comes from all the false propaganda you are fed.

You would stand a better chance of being cured if you were able to brush off the OBs as nothing to worry about. There is no scientific way to prove whether Lamisil is curing people of what is known as herpes or if Lamisil is a placebo. No doubt Lamisil kills fungus and my early information claimed "Lamisil cures herpes EVERY single time" and that statement alone is probably the reason Lamisil was so effective. A few people posted here that Lamisil did not cure them, whether they really used Lamisil or ever had what is called herpes I do not know but what they did succeed in doing is crush the placebo power of Lamisil by introducing DOUBT.

The science of placebo is the science of immunity and evolution so DO NOT KNOCK PLACEBO. Instead of knocking it like the medical industry would have you do, embrace it, study it and CONTROL it and you will evolve to have complete immunity.
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Postby lk2725 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:39 am

David, I understand your information but why do sores ONLY happen to happen 'down there' and nowhere else in that precise form/kind?
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Postby tbone66 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:09 am

I noticed on the online pharmacy I got my Lamisil from that there are other antifungal drugs. Do you know anything about Generic Grifulvin (Griseofulvin)
or Generic Sporanox (Itraconazole) or Generic Nizoral (Ketoconazole)?

Generic Grifulvin is used for treating fungal infections of the scalp, body, foot (athlete's foot), nails, thigh (jock itch), or hair follicles (barber's itch)

Generic Sporanox is an antifungal antibiotic. It is used to treat infections caused by fungus, which can invade any part of the body including the lungs, mouth or throat, toenails or fingernails

Generic Nizoral is used for treating fungal infections.
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Postby David » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:02 pm

It would need to be a systemic fungicide for it to do any long lasting good. It is well worth the research in trying other systemic oral drugs because different active ingredients kill different fungal species. It is possible that cold sores and other OBs that are not cured by Lamisil might be cured by other active agents. However I am not as interested in such research as I am in promoting natural immunity that is a guaranteed cure that is also much more efficient.

I understand the desire for convenience and you and the other members are welcome to promote your own research and trials here and test some other products.
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Postby lk2725 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:05 pm

Sorry for posting this up again David, do not mean to be a pest,but from the past I know that you have never not responded to a comment.

I understand your information but why do sores ONLY happen to happen 'down there' and nowhere else in that precise form/kind?
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Postby David » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:03 pm

lk2725 wrote:Sorry for posting this up again David, do not mean to be a pest,but from the past I know that you have never not responded to a comment.

I understand your information but why do sores ONLY happen to happen 'down there' and nowhere else in that precise form/kind?


The sores happen "down there" in you like they do for many people but I would venture to say that half the people who read this will have the sores all over the place, on their backs, their butts, their legs, their face and everywhere else.

But you are the first person to ask such a question and it is a very good question to ask and all I can do is the same as a doctor or scientist and speculate so I will give it a shot. When I speculate I have no profit to gain which makes me speculate with a different point of view. Here goes, all pathogens have life cycles that get transferred through the circulatory system/blood, especially fungus. Fungus thrives best under ideal environmental circumstances. It could be that due to the genital regions high blood ratio that it is more suitable for certain types of fungus that do better in highly oxygenated blood areas that maintain more heat and moisture content. It could other reasons, like maybe due to the sensitive skin and flesh in the genital region. The genital regions for some may be the most suitable environment.

The only thing I can say that isn't speculation is any OB is due to an ineffective immune system. Speculating again, maybe you have more defense in other regions or maybe the type of fungus needs the environment that can only be found in the genital regions but make no mistake the pathogen travels throughout your body constantly which doesn't matter because you are breathing it in with every breath anyway.

The people who are responding very well to Lamisil are most likely ending a long term fungal saturation which gives their body the upper hand once again to kill fungi on contact as the body should be doing in the first place. Some people will be cured using Lamisil through placebo, it doesn't make the cure any less than a cure it just means the Lamisil gave them enough peace of mind to crank up their immune system again.
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Postby lk2725 » Tue May 01, 2012 12:30 pm

Dear David,
thank you for your response. I have been a member of this forum for almost 2 years and have also donated couple of times. It is strange and sad at the same time that no one has reported successful story. I and many other have been very hopeful.
I have had to be amongst those for whom too the drug 'L' did not work {you may remember}. I know- you David, think that these people get cured and are no longer interested in this forum. I wish it were truth. 2 years on and we are still no wiser.

May I comment on what I think about it all? An 'ob' might be a failure of primary immune system or {how do you call it} this would explain why some people don't have visible 'ob's of fungus and yet transfer it to other people who get it straight away. I know you have previously said that everyone has this pathogen inside their bodies waiting to come out when immune system is compromised {do virgins get it then???}. While this might be truth for other people, it was not for me, I got it couple of days after coming to contact with my long distance partner. Until that time I had had almost no contact with other person, I had been a 'very good girl.' Let us call it fungus- it might well be, I am not disputing that. The point is that had I not had that contact with my then partner I would not have got this pathogen as you call it. I appreciate your theory about the location of sores but I am afraid even if I wanted to believe it, I can't. It would have been truth if those kind of sores were appearing on other parts of my body but they were not. They never have. I never get flu, I only get a cold once a year. That initial very painful blister accompanying with fever like symptoms appeared 'down there' and nowhere else. Although from then onwards, it has never looked like a blister just a small lesion/sore. Could this be fungus? It could be but it is infectious and it is impossible to get rid of!
If I lived in the US I would sooooo have seen and been educated by you by now. At least I could say to myself that I have tried everything.
Please don't take my comments as criticism David, they have not meant to be. I enjoy reading through your forum topics, it always gives us people that at least faint glimpse of hope. You are an honest guy, you could have posted fake testimonials about 'L drug' just to shut people up but you have not, you have stayed true to yourself!!! The reason why I have thought that this 'L- drug deal' must be real as I thought there was no way of you advocating something so much unless you are 100% sure that it works!!!!!! You putting so much time to it for nothing? It would NOT MAKE SENSE- what would you gain?????????
I do believe that mind is central to healing {as you do- I assume} and in the past I have kept it open about this. But as time goes on and that drug did not seem to work for me I did start to doubt which left me feeling rather down about this all.

If you have any email address onto people in England, do ask them for permission to give them out to me and perhaps they and I can get together and arrange for you to come over here. I am interested in healing, not only because of the above.
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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby David » Tue May 01, 2012 3:05 pm

lk2725,

It is truly a sorry world we live in. Profit rules made possible by marketing and advertising. When I discovered that Lamisil will cure most cases of the disease known as herpes I was well aware that it wouldn't cure everyone who was lead to believe they had a disease known as "herpes". I knew this because every bit of information surrounding the disease known as herpes is science fiction made up marketing and advertising. "Herpes hides in the nervous system" is pure science fiction. "Herpes is a virus" is pure science fiction also known as speculation also known as hypothesis. "Herpes is sexually transmitted" is 90% science fiction. It is 90% science fiction because naturally a person can come in contact with the sore causing pathogen through the physical contact but scientifically speaking the 10% chance of getting it that way is slim to none as well because pathogens have various stages and life cycles that have to be adhered to before they can successfully be transferred.

I stated that Lamisil would "cure herpes every single time" because it was the only way to get through the mental programing everyone has been exposed to. No one would try it if I didn't show COMPLETE confidence in it. As for positive reports, I still get them through my email and I still tell them it may not have been the Lamisil that cured them. There is absolutely NO way to know if the Lamisil is curing people or if it was my confident statement that "Lamisil cures herpes every single time". No matter which the case may be, people are still emailing me with their positive results instead of posting on the forum. And yes people are emailing me about their negative results instead of posting on the forum too.

In the case of Lamisil and my work, I am more correct than any component of the medical industry which is why I am not in jail sending you letters through the mail. If Lamisil did not work for so many I would be in jail right now. As it is, Lamisil cures more people of herpes than any other method. What I do naturally and through the immune system would cure everyone but like you not everyone can get to me so I leave the information online as a courtesy and because it is the right thing to do even though it is hindering my own work.

It is very unfortunate that Lamisil did not work for you, especially being that you are so far away. I would gladly travel to you if I had the means and if we were not dealing with the propaganda associated with what is known as herpes I would have the means. People would speak more freely and people would come together and we would make it practical for me to travel but the problem now is most of the people in England will have complete success with Lamisil leaving you and I hanging in the breeze with little options and I am stuck.

I am stuck because Lamisil makes my work unnecessary for the many and for you the few there isn't enough of you to pull together as a group and here is the most discouraging part, if I remove the Lamisil information I will reach less and less people and the attacks will go up and up. You see, people cannot dispute my claims of Lamisil curing MOST people with herpes so they cannot attack that claim. For them to do so will only draw more attention to the truth about Lamisil curing herpes and how the disease known as herpes is PURE science fiction.

As it is, will all my effort and work I don't make even the slightest threat to business of herpes, but putting me on CNN would ruin the whole medical industry.

So the question is, how do we get you healthy?

A) You (not me) generate enough interest in England to get me over there.
B) You experiment with other systemic fungicides to see if you have a fungus that the active ingredient in Lamisil doesn't work on.
C) You work on getting the upper hand on your health all by yourself.

I'm not apposed to teaching what I can online and experimenting with immunity but it will take a lot of participation and there will be much failure. I have failed over and over throughout the last 20 years but I learned from each of the failures. It requires patience something hard to come by when one is filled with fear from all the bogus propaganda.

I personally need to be focusing my energy and efforts on training. If I don't get someone trained and something happens to me it may be gone for good. I don't foresee much opportunity for gaining interest because of the overall lack of participation in this forum and my other blogs and pages. The lack of participation is due to the fact that I am the only one able to discuss these issues. If I could get others trained who could answer questions on this forum everything would change. If I moved to the east coast here in the states everything would change. I would have clients out my ears and I would make a reasonable living curing people but I would lose my own peace of mind and health if transplanted myself into an environment I didn't like. True Cures Evolution is not a miracle cure, it is simply wisdom and knowledge that allows us to properly evolve.

Someone from you part of the world will have to make some sacrifices. I made 20 years of sacrifice all I need is one month from the people I would train. There are people who would gladly sacrifice a month and who have the means but they are completely unaware of my work and what I can teach them. I have no way of reaching the masses.
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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby lk2725 » Wed May 02, 2012 12:53 pm

David,

thank you for your response. So you DO receive positive feedback on Lamisil then!!? {as well as negative}. Well, I am very glad to hear that.

I get 1 OB a year now after a rough initial half a year {well, I have just had one after 4 months of the last one so I might start having them regularly} so it is not that much of a problem, it is actually ONLY the thought of having it and the stigma attached to it that wears me down. Nevertheless I have given up on hope. And many other people have too.

The thing is- 1 month of training is absolutely impossible to take off as holidays!!! If I lost my job- yes, that would be the only way I could do it! And you all in US only get 2 weeks of annual leave a year!!!!!!
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Postby David » Wed May 02, 2012 2:00 pm

lk2725 wrote:David,

thank you for your response. So you DO receive positive feedback on Lamisil then!!? {as well as negative}. Well, I am very glad to hear that.

I get 1 OB a year now after a rough initial half a year {well, I have just had one after 4 months of the last one so I might start having them regularly} so it is not that much of a problem, it is actually ONLY the thought of having it and the stigma attached to it that wears me down. Nevertheless I have given up on hope. And many other people have too.

The thing is- 1 month of training is absolutely impossible to take off as holidays!!! If I lost my job- yes, that would be the only way I could do it! And you all in US only get 2 weeks of annual leave a year!!!!!!



Yes, our culture and capitalism is conducive to poor health. People simply are not afforded the time to think let alone take two weeks or a month off to restore their health. It leaves you at the mercy of the medical industry. It is well planned and thought out on purpose.

The REAL problems is the fact that people are not interested in learning to be healthy at the cost of becoming wise to the false fictional world we live in. If people were less loyal to their beliefs and more loyal to wisdom and knowledge I would have someone trained near you that could help you.

That is where this forum must excel. It needs to generate interest in learning True Cures. I could get someone trained near you, you would only have to stop by for a short daily visit for a few weeks.
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Postby tbone66 » Sat May 12, 2012 8:11 pm

6 weeks of using Lamisil. Week 1 I used one 250mg pill per day. Week 2-4 I used 2x250mg per day. Thought I had it on the ropes since I hadn't seen any outbreaks or bumps for 2 weeks. Didn't see any bumps in week 5 so dropped to 1x250mg per day. Week 6 got a few bumps so went back to 2x250mg. I am 46 years old and weigh 270 lbs so I think I need the bigger dosage since there is so much real estate to cover and I have 46 years of accumulation. Lately, most of the activity is on my hands and wrists. Nothing more in the boxer short area. I also spray and bump twice a day with Lotrimin Liquid Spray. Seems to work. I will keep posting as I go thru at least 90 days of Lamisil. I will most likely go a little longer just to make sure but I will decide that when the time comes.
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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby David » Mon May 14, 2012 10:33 am

That's a lot of lamisil but you could be right about the amount it will take. Wouldn't it be nice if doctors where allowed to cure people so they could instruct you? Bumps on the hands and wrist sounds like fungus. Can't imagine it being any kind of bodily reaction. I hope the active ingredient in Lamisil is the right one for it.

The hard thing for me is knowing if you lived here I would see you two or three times in a two week period and you would never have new bump or ob after a week or two. It takes me 10 minutes to set a person up to be OB free and two weeks of reasonable discipline for the patient to make it stick.
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Postby robinred » Mon May 14, 2012 4:59 pm

Hello David,
I'm new to your site. Thanks for having me. I'm trying to better understand your plight on behalf of our plights. Just curious, you recommended several western medical big pharmacy product's. As a means of a cure, but why when you are pushing natural internal cures? I guess because scientific medical options aren't always bad for you...Anywaysssss I have been dealing with this bs for 6 years. I have it better than some, and worse than some. I would sell my soul to the devil if I knew I would be myself again...This bastard disease has caused a huge phantom of the opera in my weak shitty body. It's funny I don't know who is more bitter on the subject, me or you. Sorry you cannot be more profitable from your 20 years of research. If I knew how to help I would, and I wouldn't make it seem as if I wanted something in return.
I think the cure is inside us all, and reading your sight actually gave me hope even as I sit here with a rash on my lower back.
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Postby David » Tue May 15, 2012 10:17 am

We live in the most technologically advanced world ever. Our scientist could do anything they want with medicine and drugs and THEY DO. They use them the most profitable way they can. If it were profitable to cure the disease known as "herpes" you would have been cured long ago or you would have been prevented from having the rashes or sores.

I have no reason to advocate Lamisil/Terbinafine other than the fact that some people are simply not going to have the ability to meet with me to be treated or to learn to cure disease by themselves. I also realize that some people are going to prefer a pill. I am truly not against effective medicine. Western medicine, though it is very ineffective it is far more effective than alternative medicine. If a person studies this forum they can make western medicine even more effective. This may sound arrogant but a person who has really studied this forum can become much more knowledgeable and effective at medicine than the leading doctors. All doctors have access to is science fiction and I mean what I say when I say this forum is the only scientific forum on the internet.

You can go on science forums and post all kinds of crazy notions but post ONE single truth or fact that hurts today's beliefs about modern science and you will be banned in minutes. Real science is long gone because there is no way to profit, you have me against the whole COMMERCIAL industry of science.

Now I work 6 days a week to pay my bills and to make my consignment store profitable enough so I can hire someone to run it so I can possible take off two weeks here and there to train people to use their immune system to cure themselves. I have to take this rout because I discovered that Lamisil/Terbinafine will cure most people. Had I kept that information to myself things would be different. However, my discovery of Lamisil curing herpes stopped the attacks, if anyone attacks me now it simply drives more people to use Lamisil and more and more people are cured of what is known as "herpes". Somehow I need come up with a group of people who are interested in what is true and what is real for the sake of wisdom, something that is becoming extinct. People are not stupid, they are ignorant not so much their own fault but the fault of those who claim to be educators. Knowledge and wisdom are the keys to curing any disease and neither will ever be highly profitable.

If I where to teach a person on the east coast how to cure diseases they could open a very small clinic without any overhead, products or medicine and cure one person after another and make a very reasonable living. It will take a righteous person though, one not easily duped by today's propaganda that is disguised as modern science.
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True Cures Evolution in July for people who want to be cured of "herpes" without drugs.

Postby David » Sat May 19, 2012 11:10 am

We are putting together a training where people can be treated and cured of any disease. If you want to be involved please see the link but do not post anything about herpes there because the training is about offering and creating immunity which cures all diseases so there is no need to mention the disease known as herpes.

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=607&p=2410#p2410
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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby David » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:31 am

yoyo911 wrote:hi dived
i like to know every thing and i want you teach me so can you contact with me i want to came and see you so how long it will take to teach me how i cure may self and other i love to be cure and cure the people so can you contact with me i want to have your email so i can email you and i see if i can get to you as soon as i can
with may respect for you


viewforum.php?f=38 Here is the topic for training and travel yoyo911.
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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby matrick6 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:46 pm

My ob are frequent, will it effect true cures if I have one at the time of training?
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Postby David » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:51 pm

matrick6 wrote:My ob are frequent, will it effect true cures if I have one at the time of training?


No it will not effect true cures any more than having a scratch. You gave an example of just how little faith modern man has in their natural immunity.
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Postby matrick6 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:57 am

I'm just sorting through a lifetime of lies and deception. After I got herpes I studied eveything about to find a cure. Turns out all I did was fill my head with more and more lies.
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Postby David » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:27 pm

matrick6 wrote:I'm just sorting through a lifetime of lies and deception. After I got herpes I studied eveything about to find a cure. Turns out all I did was fill my head with more and more lies.


Yep, that's how the industry of medicine can consistently fail you and still demand complete respect and admiration. Politics functions the same way, every thing we are given in regards to politics is propaganda which is why we keep voting even though nothing ever gets better. People keep donating to medicine even though nothing ever gets better.

The fact is, "THEY" can effectively control the masses and in doing so they have the MASSES fighting to convince themselves the lies are real because of pride. People want to believe and it makes them easy targets.
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Postby kiss911 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:50 pm

hi david
i am really respect you and your ide a bout the herpes is fung and i started to teach people a bout evrey thing you say and now i am a target for these people you say that thay call you dr fung ? and now i am seam you thay call me mr fung and that make me in a big chaling with thim i am really intrested with what you say and i am now in a good health more than befor and i want inded to have treaning for true cure and that is may hope ..i really want you to understand what i mean i am now in a big faiting with a lot of people how not pleave me and what i say for them a bout fung and true cure so if you want me to be in idaho for treaning i will be there if you want and if not thank you for every thing you wase verey helpfull to me with your form and i really have go knoleg now and i am in good health more than befor so i am weating for your replay
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Postby David » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:29 am

kiss911 wrote:hi david
i am really respect you and your ide a bout the herpes is fung and i started to teach people a bout evrey thing you say and now i am a target for these people you say that thay call you dr fung ? and now i am seam you thay call me mr fung and that make me in a big chaling with thim i am really intrested with what you say and i am now in a good health more than befor and i want inded to have treaning for true cure and that is may hope ..i really want you to understand what i mean i am now in a big faiting with a lot of people how not pleave me and what i say for them a bout fung and true cure so if you want me to be in idaho for treaning i will be there if you want and if not thank you for every thing you wase verey helpfull to me with your form and i really have go knoleg now and i am in good health more than befor so i am weating for your replay
thank you


I would love to train you however some, including myself are going to question your use of 911 in your handles and email. That is why I suggested you change your email and handle. If you want to train in July it will be here in Idaho and it will be a group training. You would fly into Boise Idaho and you would be staying in Ontario Oregon. The training will be either in Oregon or Idaho as we are on the boarder of the two states.

As for me being called Dr. Fungus, it could be worse. They could just kill me and solve all their problems.
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Postby kiss911 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:43 pm

hi david
thank you for your reaplay
for me i use 911 it is may email for a long time and i work a paramadic and i work for a bout 24 year now so i did not but this as the way you think . and plz under stand that i did not mean any thing and if it is bather you i will cheang it but really it is may email for along time and it dosent have any thing with you and a bout what you think ..
and really i am in a big faiting with some site i uswely get in and i post evrey thing for you and the people now make me a joke and call me mr fung and i toulde thim a bout your immunity and how it cure any disease and whithout any midicine and thay a lsow did not pleave me and start to say menay bad thing on me any way i dont care about thim and i want to be trained and to heall people and to show thim the wrigt cure as what i learn untel now from you i will be in idaho befor the traning start or i will be in the first of jolay to get cure in praivet and after that to get training with you and a bout the donate can i do it when i see you in idaho it is not proplem with me to donate to you and i will be happey to help you and be helping your resarch
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Postby David » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:47 pm

kiss911 wrote:hi david
thank you for your reaplay
for me i use 911 it is may email for a long time and i work a paramadic and i work for a bout 24 year now so i did not but this as the way you think . and plz under stand that i did not mean any thing and if it is bather you i will cheang it but really it is may email for along time and it dosent have any thing with you and a bout what you think ..
and really i am in a big faiting with some site i uswely get in and i post evrey thing for you and the people now make me a joke and call me mr fung and i toulde thim a bout your immunity and how it cure any disease and whithout any midicine and thay a lsow did not pleave me and start to say menay bad thing on me any way i dont care about thim and i want to be trained and to heall people and to show thim the wrigt cure as what i learn untel now from you i will be in idaho befor the traning start or i will be in the first of jolay to get cure in praivet and after that to get training with you and a bout the donate can i do it when i see you in idaho it is not proplem with me to donate to you and i will be happey to help you and be helping your resarch
thank you and hope to meet as soon as posiple


The person who is calling you names is the owner of the Cure Zone. http://curezone.com/ I was quickly though unintentionally destroying her forum by proving to her members that all the products sold on her forum where gimmicks. We have a long history and I am sorry she is attacking you too. She has attacked ever person who has ever posted their testimony online and will surely continue to do so. She banned every one of the members from her CureZone who has seen me in person. Because I expose all natural gimmicks it threatens her forum more than anyone else. Its just the way it is.

I'm sorry for your troubles and I shouldn't be so paranoid about your email and handle name. The medical industry cannot touch me but I was a bit paranoid about them setting me up with 911 propaganda. When "911" is used here it will be seen by our Homeland Security so please keep that in mind. I don't care if they monitor our conversations and discussion as long as you know they are. If you can make it in July you are welcome to attend. For me to train you, you will need to attend a training class because I need a group so you guys can practice on other people.
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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby hopingtobefound » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:50 am

Hello David,

As I said I would, here's a description of my OB. The first one was around the middle/end of June of this year. It first started with my genitalia being very itchy and I could not figure out why, other than the fact that I had gone horseback riding the week before and was on my period (I thought maybe the pad caused an irritation). But also, someone performed oral on me (before the period), then I went to the doctors and they did a swabbing, the test came back positive for herpes type 2. But apparently the person who performed it on me has herpes type 1. None of this makes sense to me, I'm convinced it was the pad. It was inside the inner lips of my genitalia, the lips were a bit swollen and that made it difficult to walk without discomfort, there were white blister looking spots inside, they kind of stuck together because they had discharge. The discharge was white/yellow and creamy. It was also difficult to urinate without a lot of discomfort, it burned to urinate. I took the valtrex the doctor gave me, but it took longer than I thought to work, about 2 weeks. So I'm thinking it just went away on it's own, not because of the valtrex. It's now the end of July, nothing like the first suspected OB has happened since. Except for last week a tiny part of the left inner lip was swollen for 3 days and went away. And 2 days ago, another partner had performed oral on me (says they're std free) and the inner lips are swollen again, slightly itchy/tingly feeling, but no other symptoms.

Advice on what I should do?

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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby David » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:32 am

The pertinent details are the type of sores and the duration of the sores. You are most likely correct when you assumed it was probably your body that took care of the OB instead of the Valtrex. The best argument as to the effectiveness of Valtrex is very weak.

The most likely case scenario is the horseback riding caused the initial OB. You didn't mention a blood test? Did it come out positive. The culture test is only designed to detect indications of what is believed to be herpes viruses, the test can be picking up particles of fungus or any immune defense. There will be less evidence of any so called virus than presence of fungus.

The details of the sores that seem to prove Lamisil's effectiveness are long lasting sores. Sores that tend to last for weeks or more are almost always cured by Lamisil according to what feedback I get. However you are in the early stages and your sores are going to change for a while as your body starts to adapt to them the best that you let it adapt.

If I were you, I would forget about the test and the diagnoses. I would destroy your doctor in court for falsely diagnosing you with herpes and for prescribing your Valtrex. The propaganda he has burdened you with is designed to destroy you and is far more harmful than the sores you have experienced and may experience again. Forget about what you have been told and what you have read elsewhere, it will only harm you immune system.

Do you try Lamisil or not? Hard to say. There have been people with your type of OB description who have had great success with using Lamisil but at the same time, I have had some who have had less success. If you are capable of putting the fear propaganda out of your mind, sleep not less than 8 hours a night, drink more pure water than other drinks it is possible you might never get another OB again. Everyone who is not in control of their immune system are loaded with many types of fungus so Lamisil cannot be a bad thing.

I've seen the forum were people talk about the information I share about Lamisil, looking for second opinions or more feedback. As soon as someone mentions Lamisil they forum members JUMP on it and say "DON'T DO IT, IT WILL DESTROY YOUR LIVER". There is no evidence that Lamisil is harmful to the liver and there is no solid evidence that Lamisil causes any side effects. There is evidence right here on this forum that the mind can create supposed Lamisil like side effects. One person read that you can loose your since of taste and naturally after reading that he lost his sense of taste and it had nothing to do with the Lamisil use.

People here have used Lamisil and then reported taking a liver test only to have the test improved after using the Lamisil. Will the Lamisil help you? Well considering that you have lots of fungus in you, whether or not it is causing your OBs or not is still in question, however as you destroy fungus in your body, your body's own immune system load is lightened and if your sores are not fungal in nature you body will likely be more prepared to address the cause of the sores. So Lamisil will most likely improve anyone's position AS LONG as they do not fear using it. If you buy into the bogus "it will destroy your liver" propaganda you should not take Lamisil.

If you choose to use Lamisil be sure to plan a yeast infection treatment with it. You do not want fungus leaving inside your vaginal cavity safe from the Lamisil and your immune system to constantly recontaminate you.

If you use your head and check your emotions Lamisil may be all you need, however if Lamisil does not prove to be 100% effective for you, you will have no choice but to see me or someone I have trained. I can guarantee my work and ability but I cannot guarantee the work of my trainees as of yet. I can't even guarantee they will be seeing anyone, and if they will see other, I do not know when. I just sent to fledgelings home this weekend to build their confidence by curing their friends and family.

1) Do not fear or stress out about your situation.
2) Get more sleep, no less than 8 hours.
3) Drink mostly if not only water.
4) Go easy on the carbs and sugars.
5) Decide whether or not you want to use and try Lamisil.

In regards to the use of Lamisil, consider this, your doctor will put you on a lifetime prescription for Valtrex that he or she knows will not cure the disease known as herpes.

Belief is your enemy.

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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby hopingtobefound » Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:53 pm

David,

I had a blood test done 3 weeks after the swabbing results, because I wanted a second opinion. But the results of the blood test also came back positive for herpes type 2 from my gyno (swabbing was at Planned Parenthood).

I still think the test is false, I just want to figure out why my immune system made these antibodies that would cause the blood test to be positive. There wouldn’t be any harm in me trying the Lamisil thought anyways, right? It either works for me, or it doesn’t. I guess, everyone is different. I just need to coax my doctor into prescribing it for me. The people that it has worked for, did they get a blood test afterwards and have negative test results?

That’s just crazy talk, if I drink plenty of water, I’ll be fine.haha
How long would I take it for? And how much do you think? Or does it depend on the person?
Wait…I’m going to get a yeast infection when I use the Lamisil? Sorry, a little confused, please explain David.

Have you heard of MMS as well? I’ve heard it works too.
I hate Valtrex, I’ve only taken it the week of the first OB. And I hated it, it caused cramps. Also, I never take any medications, I try to keep things all natural when I can.

Thank you so much!
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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby David » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:25 pm

hopingtobefound wrote:David,

I had a blood test done 3 weeks after the swabbing results, because I wanted a second opinion. But the results of the blood test also came back positive for herpes type 2 from my gyno (swabbing was at Planned Parenthood).

I still think the test is false, I just want to figure out why my immune system made these antibodies that would cause the blood test to be positive. There wouldn’t be any harm in me trying the Lamisil thought anyways, right? It either works for me, or it doesn’t. I guess, everyone is different. I just need to coax my doctor into prescribing it for me. The people that it has worked for, did they get a blood test afterwards and have negative test results?

That’s just crazy talk, if I drink plenty of water, I’ll be fine.haha
How long would I take it for? And how much do you think? Or does it depend on the person?
Wait…I’m going to get a yeast infection when I use the Lamisil? Sorry, a little confused, please explain David.

Have you heard of MMS as well? I’ve heard it works too.
I hate Valtrex, I’ve only taken it the week of the first OB. And I hated it, it caused cramps. Also, I never take any medications, I try to keep things all natural when I can.

Thank you so much!


No the test isn't false, you would have tested positive for the blood test a year ago this time. It shows you have an "elevated" IgG count and you do. It just doesn't have a thing in the world to do with your OB. Not a thing.

Your primary immune response is down so your body now produces antibodies for it's needed immunity. Statistically speaking, maybe at best 1 out of 10 random people might test negative for both supposed types of "herpes".

Randomly taking herpes test is discouraged by the medical profession. The fact is, if every American citizen was forced to take the same tests you took as much 80% of the population would test positive and the medical industry would have to tell thousands and thousands of people that they have the elusive never seen "herpes" virus but are asymptomatic.

So the test only works to test antibody counts it does not effectively diagnose anything. USELESS for all practical purposes other than MAKING billions of dollars.

There is no scientific reason to expect an antibody count to go down after using Lamisil or any drug to cure the disease known as herpes. The sores have nothing at all to do with the antibody count and drugs will not change your immune failures or weaknesses. Only you can change that and only through wisdom. The only thing in your way now is your beliefs. Shed them.

I will try to be gentle. Your comment was crazy and nothing I suggest is done without wisdom. Nothing in your comment was productive for your health and well being. The only health and healing improvement you have access to right now to is PURE water, more sleep and less stress and you are missing the entire point of using Lamisil. Lamisil is used to kill fungus nothing more. Yeast infections are believed to be fungal and if so it will not cause yeast infections. If I were a woman and I was going to try Lamisil I would be sure and use a yeast treatment kit to prevent vaginal fungus from being reintroduced to the blood stream, seems like common sense to me.

MMS, oregano oil, Resolve and every other available product out there other then successful prescription fungicides are products for fools. You have a lot of reading to do but if you do it outside of this forum you will suffer for it. Do not rely on my understanding of health and healing because I am not responsible for your health any more than your doctor is. You are the one responsible for your health. If you want your doctor to prescribe you Lamisil you need to know why so take some time, read more of the forum and then if you have questions that are not covered, ask them. Right now, what little you know about the disease known as herpes and the test associated with it is MORE than your doctor knows. And if you were to tell your doctor about what I share here, he or she could not deny what I have said otherwise you would have a powerful lawsuit to take up against your doctor.

I would be happy to guide anyone through a class action lawsuit against the medical industry if an attorney exist who would take on the medical industry. The one who would take the case would become very wealthy!
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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby hopingtobefound » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:03 pm

David,

So, that means if I was to take another blood test in the future, it might come back negative? Also if my immune system gets stronger, it’ll be negative?

Are fungi contagious?
Yes, I am doing all of those things. Even doing yoga and meditation.

I’ve never had a yeast infection, that I know of, but okay I will also get a yeast infection kit for prevention. Would I need to be having an “OB” in order to use the Lamisil?
Okay, thanks! It’s all starting to make sense!
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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby David » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:06 pm

hopingtobefound wrote:David,

So, that means if I was to take another blood test in the future, it might come back negative? Also if my immune system gets stronger, it’ll be negative?

Are fungi contagious?
Yes, I am doing all of those things. Even doing yoga and meditation.

I’ve never had a yeast infection, that I know of, but okay I will also get a yeast infection kit for prevention. Would I need to be having an “OB” in order to use the Lamisil?
Okay, thanks! It’s all starting to make sense!


I can help you understand all this better if you dismiss everything you have been told and forget every belief you have in regards to any health or healing issue.

Yes a person who test often enough and who gets optimum sleep, optimum water, avoids non food or non-water products while eliminating stress will eventually test low enough to be negative. A person in charge of their immune system will likely test negative more than they will test positive but nothing you have at your disposal will prepare you for controlling your immune system short of learning the true science of immunity.

There is NOTHING more contagious than fungi and you breath the OB causing fungi in every day, it is unavoidable. The point of being human and existing is to evolve to be completely immune to all the fungi and other pathogens you breath in every breath.

Yoga and meditation is 99% BELIEF based, the 1% is the simple peace of mind it MIGHT give a person, a brief touch of peace of mind that will not make any significant change in a person's immune system. Forget about yoga and meditation unless for physical strength training but know that ever calorie burned or used is a calorie taken away from powering your potential immune system.

I am not a doctor, all I know about Lamisil is that it kills fungus and according to all the people I know who have taken has no side effects. Livers have apparently improved for some of the members who have posted here. I cannot see any scientific reason why a person would not take lamisil while they are having an OB. Can you?

I am glad you are asking this questions, and though I do get frustrated I do remind myself that you have been misinformed your whole life so forgive me when I get too coarse. I do not want you to take Lamisil, I want you to learn from this forum so you can restore your immune system to its full potential but I do understand that Lamisil is more convenient. See your doctor and try to get 9 or 10 weeks worth from him or her. All you can do is try it and see if stops your OBs. You haven't had enough OBs for me to offer much more of my opinion. I know Lamisil has worked best for people who have very chronic long lasting brutal OBs and the reason being is their doctor diagnosed their psoriasis, eczema and even jock itch as "herpes". It is no joke, on the east coast people with severe jock itch get diagnosed with herpes and a prescription for valtrex and they suffer NON-STOP for months with NO relief until they buy a can of $8 tinactin or lotrimin after reading my information and then get complete relief. This happens because people are ashamed to tell their parents or their friend and because some doctors are as greedy as hell. I hope your doctor isn't one of them.
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Re: First stop for all herpes information and only open topic for discussion.

Postby David » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:53 pm

When I say fungus is extremely contagious do not think of it as in "herpes contagious". The fear of spreading "herpes" is what drives the industry and it is as fraudulent as the "herpes" virus itself.

Fungus in the form of jock itch could be past from one partner to another but a can of tinactin will cure that. If it is not in the form of jock itch it is probably next to impossible to pass an OB causing fungus directly to a partner. Cancer is equally as contagious, and like the underlying cause for the disease known as herpes EVERYONE has already been infected with the cancer causing pathogen, YOU have it, just as almost if not every American already has the fungus that causes herpes.

The ONLY thing that allows a person to have OBs is coincidental immune failure. So, even if a person has a contagious fungi during sex and they pass it to their partner the chances of it causing OBs in the partner is slim to none. It may cause prostate cancer, lung cancer, lymphatic cancer, breast cancer, ovarian cancer, psoriasis, eczema or a hundred other signs and symptoms. But because everyone already has the cause for these cancers and OBs it all comes down to how strong, healthy, happy and stress free a person is.

Most people, including yourself will carry the OB causing pathogen for many many years before your immune system cracks enough to show signs and symptoms of it. Add the fear propaganda that weighs heavily on the minds of people on the east coast and sings and symptoms will be more prevalent.

If anyone wishes to understand what I am saying and sharing they will have to forget everything they have read and been told, that propaganda leads only to suffering NO cures.
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Postby Lunagirl » Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:55 pm

I'm very sorry but can you give me the definition of OB
I did research it and I'm still very confused. Thanks David. :)
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Postby David » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:10 pm

Lunagirl wrote:I'm very sorry but can you give me the definition of OB
I did research it and I'm still very confused. Thanks David. :)


OB is short for OutBreak. Which isn't a very good word because outbreak is a catch all word without any real significant scientific meaning. Anything can be called an outbreak.
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Postby Andres ecua » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:40 am

david,

the sores and blisters are only on my genital area. i´ll take the lamisil pills, but, do i have to use a fungicidal spray or cream on the blisters? ive been looking over the forum but havent found a similar question or an answer to this.
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