IMPORTANT options for your health.

by **David** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:36 am

NEW EDIT: 9/10/2012 Any donation of $20 or more allows full access to the forum.

When it comes to your personal health, BELIEF is your enemy. Before you found this forum, you had only two choices to BELIEVE in. One choice is to BELIEVE in western conventional medicine and the other choice is to BELIEVE in natural alternative medicine, neither one remotely capable of offering you actual healing or cures. Whichever one you choose, all you get from them is their professional BELIEF/OPINION which is also known in the medical industry as their professional HYPOTHESIS. A hypothesis is science and medicine’s best guess, nothing more. The FACT is, best guesses do not cure or heal anything which is why you will not find a cure in western or alternative medicine but instead a life time of treatment and suffering with a hefty price tag to boot.

Unfortunately you have been destroying yourself with your BELIEFS and you will continue to be ill and suffer as long as you remain loyal to your BELIEFS. I cannot help you and no one can cure you if you remain loyal to your BELIEFS. Only the TRUTH can heal and cure you and that is why I created this forum and have researched the truth for twenty years.

Most people BELIEVE I would be famous if I could cure people of today’s supposedly “incurable” diseases. People assume and BELIEVE I would be wealthy if I could cure people of today’s supposedly “incurable” diseases. People often BELIEVE cures for so called “incurable” diseases would be highly profitable and highly sought after. People assume and BELIEVE the Mayo Clinic would invite me to cure all the children currently dying of cancer if I could cure cancer. Those are the BELIEFS that are preventing you from ever knowing the truth or the cure you are seeking. People use those BELIEFS to discredit me. They do not challenge my information because they can’t. They simply want you to continue to BELIEVE that the medical and science industry is truly concerned about you and that they are truly seeking to provide you with better health. They are not.

I’m not wealthy, I am not famous and I get no invites to cure children dying of cancer. Instead I get attacked and discredited simply because I am not wealthy, famous and working in hospitals curing people of cancer. The fact is, it is impossible to create a cure that will be more profitable than leaving a disease classified as “incurable”. In today’s industry of medicine you are a lifetime investment/asset as long as you remain unhealthy and diseased. If you were offered cures or you knew how to cure yourself and others the entire medical industry with the exception of trauma medicine would almost certainly collapse.

The medical industry is one of, if not the largest industries the world will ever know. It is the glue holding the world economy together. It is an industry that protects itself from cures becoming public. You BELIEVE you have freedom of speech but you do not. You DO NOT have the freedom of speech to share the information inside my forum. You will be banned from any medical or science forum, even the alternative forums. The media cannot report on cures offered by me or by the wisdom found in this forum because the cures will damage those who own the media, control the media or advertise through the media.

Right now you are sick because you choose to BELIEVE in the medical hypothesis/best guess. Which I find interesting because you have no doubt been told by the medical industry you BELIEVE in that you cannot be cured but here you are still looking for a cure, and hoping to find one that does not contradict your BELIEFS but you will will have to sacrifice your beliefs if you want to understand why you can be cured and why your doctor isn't volunteering the information.

For you to understand cures, you will not be able to remain loyal to your BELIEF system. You were spoon fed your BELIEF system, you didn’t create it. The system offers you choices and you pick the one you want to BELIEVE in. In politics you are offered two choices, Democrat or Republican and you most likely have chosen one and remain loyal to it despite the fact that there is no evidence of either choice having any interest in improving your quality of life. Both choices in regards to politics are misplaced BELIEFS and by BELIEVING in something that is wrong you will continue to suffer. The same goes for medicine, THEY see to it that you have two choices, western conventional medicine or natural alternative medicine and obviously when it comes to cures, both choices are ineffective which makes them both wrong.

Like with politics, there is NO truth in today’s industry of medicine. There are ONLY commercial science’s most powerful money making hypotheses and NO ONE is allowed to enter a new improved hypothesis let alone a factual truth. Science is pure commercialism and scientists have no option but to play the game they are paid to play. If a commercial scientist discovers the truth and tries to push the truth they will be relieved of their duty, the same goes for doctors. In today’s industry of science and medicine you either play by the rules of capitalism or you are not allowed to play.

I have no credentials or wealth to be taken from me which is why I can offer you the truth. I have nothing to lose. If you want the truth from a doctor or commercial scientist they must be prepared to give up their salary, their second home and their luxury automobiles. It is that simple.

If anyone feels they can dispute anything in this introduction to the True Cures Healing Underground, PLEASE take a moment and start a topic right here in this section of the forum and explain how it is possible that what I shared here is my BELIEF and not factual. I search for the truth in all things and if I am wrong, I must know and it is your duty to help me remain truthful. I only ask that you post in a civil manner.

I seldom have fees for my work or time, I rely on donations, even when I am curing people or training people. This forum is loaded with information that will help you understand your health. Your small donations will give me incentive to keep this information available to you all. If you wish to contact me privately do so once you have made a contribution through the ‘donate’ button above. I will get your email and thank you for the contribution allowing you to email me back. Otherwise, you may use the forum to visit with me.

Your options are whether you want to choose your BELIEFS or seek the TRUTH? Your choice and your donations make the truth possible.

Do not be afraid of the truth, no one is out to kill me for sharing it. I reach a thousand people a month and that is no threat to the powers to be. Even if I reached 100,000 thousand people a month it would be no threat because the truth will never be available through mainstream channels. The medical industry and government is not concerned with a few people finding the truth and the cures that come with it because they know the truth will never be on CNN or Fox news. I'm simply a minor irritation that isn't worth scratching.

David Flowers
True Cures Research Foundation

by **matrick6** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:51 pm

I hate the idea of you doing all this for free. What you have to offer is priceless. I will be at the training in july for the full two weeks. I will be making a donation for this training. I'm sorry I haven't yet but I have a lot to do to be ready for the trip. And my money has been tied up getting my car ready to make it there

by **David** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:52 am

matrick6 wrote:I hate the idea of you doing all this for free. What you have to offer is priceless. I will be at the training in july for the full two weeks. I will be making a donation for this training. I'm sorry I haven't yet but I have a lot to do to be ready for the trip. And my money has been tied up getting my car ready to make it there

It should be priceless. It should be free, I know that too. It was meant to be free, it is because of the business of health care that our capacity for immunity has been lost. The problem is people have lost all respect for their own immune capacity due to all the medical propaganda and hypotheses that cause people to believe they are the most inferior life form on earth.

Also people just cannot fathom healing without some kind of product. Humans are programmed to be consumers. I don't need much to have a little peace of mind, my own health suffers as I struggle and fight to keep my information visible on the internet. If I post anywhere other than my own hubs and this forum I am brutally attacked. No one disputes my claims or the information they simply call names and are ugly. That's what I put up with and question why.

The third option I didn't mention here is for me to just remove all my information and forget about it all. It would eliminate a lot of contention.

by **David** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:25 pm

$20 donation came in today. Thank you very much.

by **David** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:48 am

One $20 donation in the 4 days after this topic was started. That is not much incentive considering how many people come to this site.

I am putting on a training class in the second half of July and this is the topic viewtopic.php?f=38&t=607 and I suggest anyone looking for a cure or superior health on the east coast show some support to those who are training.

When I train the people from the east coast they are going to have many options and it is totally up to them as to whether they will make themselves available to YOU. At one time I had the story of the little red hen right on the front page of this forum and it offended SOOOO many people. They hated me using a child's story to explain their predicament in regards to their health, they found it very offensive. Clearly society has lost all passion and empathy for REAL causes, maybe we have all been burned out on them but when it comes to you meeting someone who can indeed cure you or help you cure yourself, YOU will have to at least give potential trainees some support otherwise they will train for two weeks and then disappear. They will use their ability to offer immunity to help themselves and their family and closest friends.

I do not insist people permanently dismiss their beliefs, I am simply demanding anyone interested in learning to use their immune system dismiss their beliefs for two weeks for training purposes. There is NO room for "beliefs" when it comes to ACTUAL healing which I know is hard for you all to accept because natural healing today is based SOLELY on "belief" but you MUST admit today's "belief" based medicine is almost completely ineffective. It's like this, you can believe in Santa Claus with all your might but it will not make him real, the same goes for all medicine, you can believe in medicine or mainstream science all you want but "belief" will not make it TRUE.

We are getting down to the wire here. This July training may be the last training I do or at least the last training that should benefit YOU. If there is no support for actual healing and cures, you tell me why someone would want to heal you?

by **David** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:39 am

http://www.facebook.com/pages/True-Cures-Evolution-Revolution/332293953469799

This is discouraging. ONLY 26 people approve of improved human immunity. I feel like I am trying to sell ice to Eskimos, promoting something people do not want. It appears people are not interested in improving their immunity if they cannot get a pill to do it.

by **David** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:47 am

Someone donated $50 today. That put's this months total to $90. It is well short of the $10 a day but it gives me some hope especially now that I may be loosing my strongest internet presence on the web. My most active blog has been removed and I have edited three times so far to get it back up but apparently it isn't the wording but the overall message. The hits to the blog has been going up everyday and apparently has become a considerable threat and deemed inappropriate. If they do not allow the blog to exist as it has for over a year this forum and my work will come to a screeching halt.

Because so few people comment on this forum it keeps it under the search engine radars. That is the nature of the beast, discussing facts instead of medical beliefs/hypotheses leaves little room for discussion. It leaves my work as a source of information more than a discussion.

This $50 donation couldn't have come at a better time. Yesterday was a horrible day, one of the worst. I was ready to delete everything and throw in the towel.

by **David** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:43 pm

Just received a $60 donation from someone out of the country, thank you very much. This person will have trouble making it to the states yet they still donated. If donations increase to a point where I can use them to fly to areas where a group can be put together I can train. If I train someone in your area the expenses for seeing them will be next to nothing. Any donation at all can potentially make it possible for someone to be trained. I'm not talking about training fee's, I'm talking about travel and room and board expenses. If training could be done through video this would not be an issue.

Hot to this topic http://healingunderground.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=608 if you want to understand why video or skype will not work.

by **David** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:43 pm

This is a very important and pertinent forum topic I have started on Hubpages well worth a look from every single one of you. Please chime in if you can offer some constructive comments.

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/99953#post2135147

by **Kenz0r** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:22 pm

First i'd like to thank you for sharing your "knowledge" and experience.

I don't actually know if you are right or not, I just feel you are sincerely involved in what you do.

I personnaly know there is much more behind the misconceptions of the quack medicine (that is just pumping out money and poisoning people) based on false, unproved, biased theories.

You might have found something relevant that deserves to be studied, discussed and shared by open-minded people.

After reading, I couldn't stay silent and posted this in you hub forum :

In 1900 the Rockefeller and JP Morgan labor union bought Encyclopedia Britannica. Any information and references unfavourable to the vaccinations were eliminated from the Encyclopedia.
Rockefeler = banker, JP Morgan = Banker. Do you see the point ? It is not only a question of money (these guys have more than enough), this is all about control (brainwashing & public manipulation) and power over mankind.

The experiment of the School Willowbrook in vaccines took place from 1950 to 1972. During this period of the children mentally handicapped persons were deliberately infected by the hepatitis with the aim of being able to finalize a vaccine.
Do "they" really care about you or me ? Is it ethical to kill 100 (or so) children to hope saving billions of grateful people paying for preventive cure against a designed "pathogen"?

In 1972, during a hearing(audition) in front of the Subcommittee of the Senate, the inventor of the vaccine anti polio, Jonas Salk, had to show that almost all the pushes of polio since 1961 were the result(profit) or had been provoked by the vaccine polio oral.
What kind of cure is that ? This is criminal ! One must call for Justice.

In 1994 The Lancet indicated that the asthma was five times as frequent at the inoculated child's as at the not inoculated children. This intend to point out that 1/ playing the apprentice sorcerer with immunity leads to more suffering nd 2/ wether "they" dont know anything or "they" know exactly what "they" are doing to humanity to enslave and keep it dependant or controlled in some manner.

"Would a new cure be profitable ?" Indeed if one is looking at it from the naive side of a regular hearted human being. But from the crocodiles top of the hill chairs, the sheeps must stay a source of profit for ever and ever as long as the world turns.

by **David** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:58 pm

First I want to thank the individual who just made another $50 donation.

KenzOr, the debate about vaccinations is a tricky debate and just everything in the medical industry there is no proof that vaccines are harmful or helpful however the debate is very necessary. Debates confuse the masses which is why they are used so often and considered normal practice.

I person with immune knowledge could receive vaccinations and promptly destroy any pathogenic invader without any long term effects at all which makes the ongoing debates more or less moot. I know I offend a lot of people when I say that, but the facts are plain, lots of people get vaccinated without any problems the same as lots of people come in contact with theoretically dangerous pathogens without any ill effects. Pathogens only harm the weak or tired. A strong healthy person with a fully active immune system can remain immune to all diseases and all it takes is knowledge in the form of wisdom not "BELIEF" which is all a person will find outside of my information. Belief is profitable even when people believe vaccines are harmful, it is still profitable. Wisdom and knowledge is not profitable which is why I rely on donations.

Thank you for the information, it well worth discussing for clarification.

by **Kenz0r** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:09 pm

Thanks a lot, you made it clear for me.

This argumentation is formidably effective : "a person with immune knowledge could receive vaccinations and promptly destroy any pathogenic invader without any long term effects at all ... Pathogens only harm the weak or tired."

Indeed, this sounds logical.

by **David** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:33 pm

Kenz0r wrote:Thanks a lot, you made it clear for me.

This argumentation is formidably effective :

Indeed, this sounds logical.

It does doesn't it?

When a batch of food is contaminated with e coli, many eat the food without any ill effects while some suffer and even die but if anyone reading this were to post "Pathogens only harm the weak or tired." on a health or science forum they would likely be banned. By weak and tired I mean stressed out, sleep deprived and eating more carbs and sugars than proteins.

by **David** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:26 pm

Thanks for the first July donation of $15. Total for June was $200, which helps me maintain my morale but way short of funding free training.

by **lk2725** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:17 am

Dear David,
The donation was from me. I visit your forum on average once a month just to see if anyone posted anything new/positive about being cured of something {I believe many do the same}.
I live in the UK so it is not the easiest to travel 'stateside' and take 2 weeks off {1 week would be doable} at set dates of training although I have forever been intrigued what your training {or knowledge about health that you hold-if I can put it that way} involves and if it is the real deal to actually cure everything. It is a shame that no one posts any updates on here even though they said they would !!!!

I feel that in the future I will suffer from something serious and that I will need your help/knowledge. For this reason I will regularly contribute small amount- if that will help to keep it up or not I don't know but makes me feel a bit better that even though I have not (yet) myself benefited from your help {and maybe never will have}, some other people might !!!!

by **David** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:32 am

lk2725 wrote:Dear David,
The donation was from me. I visit your forum on average once a month just to see if anyone posted anything new/positive about being cured of something {I believe many do the same}.
I live in the UK so it is not the easiest to travel 'stateside' and take 2 weeks off {1 week would be doable} at set dates of training although I have forever been intrigued what your training {or knowledge about health that you hold-if I can put it that way} involves and if it is the real deal to actually cure everything. It is a shame that no one posts any updates on here even though they said they would !!!!

I feel that in the future I will suffer from something serious and that I will need your help/knowledge. For this reason I will regularly contribute small amount- if that will help to keep it up or not I don't know but makes me feel a bit better that even though I have not (yet) myself benefited from your help {and maybe never will have}, some other people might !!!!

Ike, I knew it was you.

I'm trying to leave things more anonymous. For the record I have people contacting me from the UK quite regularly asking if I can do treatments or training over skype. I try to direct them to the video training topic I put up here.

When or if I start getting enough donations to actually be a fully funded non-profit for travel and training I will not have any trouble getting people in the UK to train or treat.

It is a shame that no one post, but please keep in mind I have only worked with local people in person for the past few years. They don't follow me online and they do not care what I have to teach they simple want to be treated and told what to do to make it work.

As far as people posting results about their experience with Lamisil, it isn't going to be common. It's a fear thing, paranoia and a desire to remain anonymous. I don't know how to change that. Some posted their results here but they are buried in the topics but most have sent me emails which is not my desire. I would just as soon everyone speak openly here. Every time a person uses Lamisil is still research and will always be. There can be a hundred different things causing any skin condition and no Lamisil is not going to work for every one of them.

As for what I do and teach, it probably shouldn't be referred to as a "CURE" but be referred to as "IMMUNITY". If a person's immune system is fully restored they will have full immunity. This does not mean they will not experience a little temporary down time because lifestyle plays a role in everyone's immunity. An immune system is only fully active under ideal conditions. If a person puts a highly physical or mental demand on their body the energy directed to immunity will be transferred to the task at hand allowing for a short term break in immunity that can be corrected through removing the demand and getting some rest, essentially allowing the body to transfer energy back to the immune system.

That is how a person can be mostly healthy and why most people get in great trouble after working hard all week, drinking hard on Friday or Saturday evening, dancing even harder and then other activities till the wee hours of the morning. If a person is still awake and physically active at 2 or 3 in the morning their is NO reserve or energy what-so-ever for the immune system.

However, a person fully trained in controlling their immunity can sleep well Sunday and drink a lot of water and take a few steps to mentally adjust their immune system and then be completely restores once again with no harm done. It's all about knowing how to control your own immune system and taking advantage of the knowledge.

by **David** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:41 am

Donations have been very slow but the attacks have been high. Two donations this month so far for a total of $65 dollars.

I would like to share the attacks with you as well. Here is one from

Subject:
They haven't arrested you yet?
From: "Richard Jarnagin" <rjarnagin@cfl.rr.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 06, 2012 6:34 pm
To: <+info@truecures.com>

There are many people out there claiming that they can cure Herpes. I am going to tell you about one of these so called healers named David Flowers aka True Cures. Back in March 2009, 14 people met with David Flowers in New York. We were all suffering with the herpes virus. Mr. Flowers told us that he could cure us in just two weeks. Some of us flew in from different states and one person even cam from Canada. He also put us on the no carb diet. He claimed that we all suffered from fungus and parasites and when the fungus and parasites were eliminated then we will be okay. We paid for his hotel, his meals and gave him money and most of us gave him money individually.

One month later some of us were still getting outbreaks and we complained to Mr. Flowers. He told us that was impossible and cursed us out. He complained that we were only saying that we had herpes to avoid giving him more money. Now, he had originally said to us that we don't need to pay him but that quickly changed as soon as we complained that we were not cured. A few of us tested and reported that we were still positive for the herpes virus but that angered him even more.

He then told us that the cure date was no longer 2 weeks but 2 years.

Today, December 28th, 2009, and everyone one of the 14 who saw True Cures back in March 2009 are still uncured. We have been humiliated and we feel deceived and scammed by True Cures.

Mr. Flowers aka True Cures is still peddling his one man show. He now claims he can cure HIV. Because of his practices he has been banned from several sites. He has been banned from several sites such as racoon.com, shutupandpost.com, hubpages.com/hub/herpes_cure and curezone.com. Here is another link with that info

http://yoshi2me.com/sexual-health/archi ... rue-cures/

BUYER BEWARE - HE CANNOT CURE DISEASES! HE DID NOT CURE THE 14 IN NY OR THE OTHER PEOPLE HE SAW IN FLORIDA, CHICAGO AND TEXAS.

TRUE CURES has NOT cured ANYONE of any diseases/viruses! Ask him where is the test showing they are negative and he cannot produce it!

This was my response-
> From: David Flowers <research@truecures.com>
> Date: July 6, 2012 9:17:24 PM MDT
> To: Richard Jarnagin <rjarnagin@cfl.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: They haven't arrested you yet?
>
> God I wish they would I could use the settlement money I would win.
>
> Sent from my iPhone

This was Richards response-
Subject: Re: They haven't arrested you yet?

From: "Richard Jarnagin" <rjarnagin@cfl.rr.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 06, 2012 9:42 pm
To: "David Flowers" <research@truecures.com>

Be careful what you wish for...

This was my response to that-
Subject:
Re: They haven't arrested you yet?

From: David Flowers <research@truecures.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 06, 2012 11:01 pm
To: Richard Jarnagin <rjarnagin@cfl.rr.com>

Yeah I know what you mean. I wished to find cures, then human immunity and both wishes came true and now it's hell having the knowledge and being attacked by assholes day and night and being ignored by the medical industry and government.

If I could find an attorney with a spine I would sue the whole medical industry. Attorneys are cowards too.

I do appreciate your concern.

David

Sent from my iPhone

I don't tell lies, I do get banned from every forum or blog I post on. I am in the process of getting banned from Hubpages which I will post the proceedings here as they are very relevant to your health.

I did see 14 people in NYC, and one of those person has tested negative, which doesn't mean much because the herpes test has nothing to do with herpes. See http://true-cures.hubpages.com/hub/Herpes-testing-is-completely-unreliable

When I first started traveling all around the world I was an IDIOT because I BELIEVED herpes was a virus. Before I started traveling around the world to cure people of the disease known as herpes I had cured many people of the disease known as herpes but my patients did not tell me they had herpes. They came to me for other diseases which I did in fact cure, it was only later that they confided in me that I had also cured them of their "herpes". I made a very poor assumption when I assumed I was curing them of 'Viruses" making them cured of herpes. It wasn't any virus treatment curing my previous patients of their so called "herpes" it was the full restoration of their immune system that was curing them. They came to me to be treated for diseases that took at least a week to cure and in that week to two weeks the cure for the disease they came to me for was the SAME cure needed to cure herpes.

When I traveled early on, I traveled for only two or three days and I treated the people for "viruses" which as it turns out has nothing to do with "herpes" and that is why I no longer do two or three day trips period. Now the only truth to Richards copy and paste of the CureZone owners hubpage above is the fact that I did see 14 people in NYC. Techie, one of the people I saw there has tested negative numerous times and I am certain there are others who were cured as well. I doubt they cared to test.

Here is the deal, I once believed exactly as you did before you found my information. My knowledge did not materialize overnight. I did not just wake up one day with the complete knowledge of the immune system and disease. I learned it through much trial and error and I learned it without any funding and with very little support from others. When I "BELIEVED" herpes was a virus I was not in a position to cure everyone I saw, I did cure many of the people I saw but not all of them. Now that I know how all my patients were cured before I started traveling I can consistently cure anyone who can spend at least a week with me. No one talks about the Lamisil information I share and Hubpages is banning the sharing of that information. They don't talk about it because they know that Lamisil will cure at least 50% of the people illegally diagnosed with the disease known as herpes.

Yes, if you are diagnosed with the disease known as herpes, you have been illegally diagnosed with it but NO attorney will stand up against the medical industry/government. The reason I am not arrested is because my information, research and work is solid and factual where the medical industry is PURE science fiction.

Most of you found me through Hubpages and that is about to dry up as my information is censored there. Hubpages has been great but they are coming under pressure as my hubs get more and more popular where they are beginning to threaten the medical industry profits. I have no hard feelings towards hubpages because I understand they are controlled by the powers-to-be as well.

Make no mistake, my information and cures are sound and consistent and can stand up in any court of law and my knowledge can destroy the entire industry of disease medicine. However I am not going to continue to fight a loosing war. If I continue to get more attacks than I get support or donations I am going to retire. Furthermore, without support for Truth and Cures the people being trained this month will not be inclined to fight the battle I have been fighting for 20+ years.

It is an ugly world we live in and the information I share destroys the livelihoods of many as it ends suffering. The attacks and banning will continue so please take the time required to fully investigate your options. Desperation isn't the key, wisdom is. There isn't ONE scientific medical fact published about herpes outside of my information which is why the medical industry can get away with NOT curing the disease known as "herpes". They want herpes to remain incurable at all cost.

Stay tuned for the Hubpage drama as it unfolds.

P.S, if you have any concerns with the information shared by my attackers please feel free to discuss them right here. I have explained in great detail on my hub pages and on topics here. I do not hide from my mistakes, I grow from them.

by **David** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:48 am

Donations are slow in coming. I have spoken to many people via email about issues that could be discussed here. I'm starting to question the practicality of having a perfect immune system if all other aspects of life are destroyed. Many of you are waiting to see who will be trained this month so they can come back to NYC and treat you. I can't imagine any trainee sticking their necks out for an ungrateful public. Take the attack email above, as soon as someone I train takes a step out there in cyber space they can simply remove my name from the attack and put theirs in place of it because they will receive the treatment I receive. They will be banned from the internet where ever they post.

Without support here in public I can't imagine them letting their knew knowledge of immunity to destroy the rest of their lives.

When I train these people this month they are going to struggle with explaining what takes place as much as I do now. I know they feel like they will be able to explain it better than I can and suspect they believe they might be able to make a go of it but they will soon learn the difficulties.

The cure through immunity isn't something that can be told to you. Think about it, no products no medicine no gadgets nothing you can put your hands on or see so how will the explain it any better than I. What they will be trained to do is the same thing you should be doing in the middle of the night in your rim sleep. They will be trained to control the involuntary actions of the immune system, a knowledge and ability modern science avoids.

I would sure like to see more donations coming in because it allows for many more options. Without them I will be forced to implement a fee that will complement my living requirements. It will be easy to make it a very high fee because of the overall lack of support.

For the record, the email above is not likely by a man named Richard. It is most likely from the owner of the CureZone.

by **David** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:17 pm

I have been banned from using Hubpages. My hubs were considered to be "dubious offers" and "contradicting scientific fact". It seems the Hubpage team is under the impression that medicine uses "scientific fact" and when I asked them to give me an example they did not respond. And they call my hubs "dubious". What's more dubious than diagnosing millions of people with diseases that are based SOLELY on medical hypothesis A.K.A medical best guesses created by commercial scientist who are allowed to smother and ban any private research?

I will soon post the content of my banned hubs here but I need to make sure I cannot work anything out with hubpages because once I post it here they will not allow duplicated material there on hubpages. I fight to the finish, I just hope this isn't the finish.

I want all of you to know the internet is full of attacks about me, it is very easy to attack me. I make a easy target when what I say contradicts people's loyalty to western and alternative medicine. I assure you that my information is the ONLY sound and solid health and healing information on the internet and once you remove your "belief" system you will see what is real and what is true. I have no idea of what you will do with the truth other than use it for personal growth because you will not be able to share it with the masses and your own friends and family will probably laugh so hard you will go silent with it. That is the world we live in.

by **David** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:22 pm

On a very long dry spell for donations. I'm training someone from NYC right now on a donation bases. Sure would be nice to see some support for himself and I. He is extremely enthusiastic and a very good pupil and should be able to save a lot of you much heartache and money. Your support is greatly appreciated.

by **David** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:39 am

A donation was made of $20 this weekend. The first donation since real science has been banned from Hubpages. The information you find here is not allowed to be posted on any other forum. Doubt me? Try me. There is NO CHANCE of you being allowed to contradict popular scientific BELIEF/hypothesis on a health and healing or science forum. They protect their BELIEF through censorship. You suffer because you rely on medical BELIEFS not medical science. This is the ONLY real and true science forum on the internet. All others are commercial businesses in pursuit of wealth not science.

Thank you for the ONE donation.

by **David** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:46 pm

Thank you for the $10 donation today. It helps.

by **David** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:57 am

I have removed the latest comments about herpes to a new topic here called "There is no evidence of a herpes virus even existing."

Please leave this topic for discussing reasons for donating or not donating. I am on the verge of giving up on humanity and this forum. There seems to be no point in providing cures and healing when humanity is so off put by it so doing my work for the sake of humanity seems very counter productive. I'm relying on donations for my reasons now. $100 donation gets people full access to this forum and the only thing I promise a person is the truth. Something you will not get anywhere else on the internet because the truth is BAD for business when it comes to health and healing.

by **David** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:58 am

In my entire life I have never turned anyone away who needed help. I have let several people have access to the forum who couldn't donate $100. I don't want to make it a habit because if I cannot take care of myself I cannot take care of you. I understand that I am not the only person struggling financially. I understand most of you simply want to be cured and do not want the burden of knowing everything you have been told is at best BELIEF and at worse pure science fiction but I still feel a need to educate you all about what is real and what is commercial science propaganda.

I'm not going to highlight this comment or post it as a topic. If any of you are actually do your homework and due diligence and see this comment because you are reading everything, you know you can have access for less than $100.

I'm sorry if the forum doesn't seem to be extremely user friendly. I specialize in real science and immunity not marketing, advertising or computer programing.

by **les** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:04 pm

David wrote:In my entire life I have never turned anyone away who needed help. I have let several people have access to the forum who couldn't donate $100. I don't want to make it a habit because if I cannot take care of myself I cannot take care of you. I understand that I am not the only person struggling financially. I understand most of you simply want to be cured and do not want the burden of knowing everything you have been told is at best BELIEF and at worse pure science fiction but I still feel a need to educate you all about what is real and what is commercial science propaganda.

I'm not going to highlight this comment or post it as a topic. If any of you are actually do your homework and due diligence and see this comment because you are reading everything, you know you can have access for less than $100.

I'm sorry if the forum doesn't seem to be extremely user friendly. I specialize in real science and immunity not marketing, advertising or computer programing.

hello, i donated today. i know is not 100.00 but is what i have. i was diagnoses 2 wks ago with herpes and have been looking for cure everyday. i cannot settle for there is no cure! i am desperate to know more about lamisil, please?
i need your help

by **madimuzio** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:00 am

hello, i donated today. i know is not 100.00 but is what i have. i was diagnoses 2 wks ago with herpes and have been looking for cure everyday. i cannot settle for there is no cure! i am desperate to know more about lamisil, please?
i need your help[/quote]

Les I would take a second to breath and refocus. Before asking David more about lamisil why not look at the topic he created for it already where he has answered all the questions you can think of. Try it out see if it works for you. If not come back and contact one of us again about learning real health.

by **David** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:29 am

Madimuzio, Les hasn't gotten access to the part of the forum about the Lamisil. I did get the donation and it is much less than $100, please forgive my vanity but it was so little it did offend me. Les, not judging you if indeed it is what you can handle at this time.

I got three very small donations yesterday after putting up my last post here. The three added up to a less offensive amount but by themselves it was a bit hurtful.

Les, if I didn't email you the information you are most likely after, email me again and I will give you what you need to know about Lamisil without you having to donate more. If you use the Lamisil route you are going to need much more money for the doctor's visit. However if your doctor becomes an ass,, you will have no choice but to educate yourself so you can be in charge of your doctor. I will set up a script that will persuade any doctor to prescribe Lamisil, mind you Lamisil is not 100% effective, but it is the ONLY product that has ANY chance of working for you. That fact alone should be well worth $100 alone because I know you and the others have already spent hundreds of dollars on useless prescription drugs and gimmick products from natural doctors and internet propaganda. The point being, once you learn the truth found in this forum you will no longer be played the fool. Well worth $100 in my opinion.

by **Jenben1985** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:29 am

I donated a very small amount today. I can't really afford that but I am so desperate to find a cure I would so very much appreciate to be given access and I will most certainly continue to donate monthly as this means the world to me.

by **David** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:22 pm

Jen, I edited your comment. Everything I deleted is counter productive personal belief and medical science fiction that will do you and my readers a horrible disservice. I'm going to give you access to the forum though your donation was pitifully small and I will expect you to make an effort to donate more when you can.

Take my advice and forget everything you think you know about your condition, forget what you have been told about it and forget the judgment you hold against others because your condition has nothing to do with what you have blamed it on.

In short, do not think about your condition or situation every again until you have gone completely through my forum, not just the parts about your condition, but the whole forum. It is your beliefs that are destroying you and nothing more. Use this forum to gain wisdom and control, everything else on the internet is bogus propaganda designed to feed your belief system for the purpose of draining every penny then can get our of you for the rest of your life.

You can afford to donate more because this forum will save you over tens of thousands of dollars over your lifetime. It can save you from wasting money on ineffective medicine and from having to maintain health insurance. A person with proper immunity does not need health insurance, only accident insurance at a fraction of the cost of health insurance.

by **IncredibleH** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:37 am

This page/forum is very interesting. I will be donating. I have never believed in "medicine" for the simple fact of the monetary discrepancies. It costs over $200 per Dr visit without insurance which is ludicrous. A Dr is supposed to be a public servant much like a police officer or fireman but the financial gains have truth precedence over helping and healing. I'm excited to learn!

by **Lunagirl** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:13 pm

Hello David,
Im very pleased to know that there are people out there that work for the people an not against. I understand money rules the world and I'm extremely aware of the governments total involvement and desperation of maintaining all power. Researching your site did in fact teach me more about the medical aspect of staying in power. As for me I have contacted mono the "kissing disease" I know it's a type of herpes but I was wondering if you have any more information on that. If you have explained in other forums about this excuses me for my lack of searching through this site. I'll be willing to donate money but I'd like to explore more about yourself and maybe even the people you have cured. (I hope that doesn't offended you) but Im willing to even pay to learn all about this. What I have learned in life is that they can take away everything, your money your car, and your house but they can not take away your knowledge. I'm not even sure if you'll get this message and completely given up. I'm a student who isn't media blinded and I'm very interested in this site. I would be very excited to hear from you because you seem very educated and I would like to hear your thoughts. Thank you.

I would love to donate if you are truly working for the people but I would like an response. I dont see why not donate if everyone hands out their money to people who don't care about us and primarily goal is to keep us down and sick, to stay rich and stay in power.

by **David** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:56 am

Lunagirl,

Until I get others who are trained and WILLING to take up the cause it will be me responding to all the questions, comments and concerns. I never wanted to be a drug pusher or advocate for drugs but the truth is, there are drugs that will work extremely well when applied properly. Unfortunately the medical industry caregivers are not trained in proper drug use when it comes to curing diseases or conditions. They are trained to control signs and symptoms and that is all they do because they are not allowed to think outside of their "SCOPE" of training. It is a law they must live by or loose their license to practice medicine.

I am now sharing the drug information inside the forum instead of emailing for several reasons. You never know who might be willing to step up to the plate and join the cause and it saves me from having to email back and fourth about content already available on the forum.

I will address one of your concerns, most people who find me suffer from what they are told is "herpes" and people with "herpes" want a cure and they want to forget that period in their life altogether. It is asking a lot of them to dwell on the subject once they are cured so there will not be a lot of chit chat from anyone cured of herpes. The only people who talk about being cured of herpes is the people behind the gimmick product they represent either openly or on the sly pretending they were cured or even pretending they had herpes in the first place. Real cures dry up a discussion because there is nothing much to discuss. Sure the knowledge is power but most people simply want the cure and to move on and I don't blame them or judge them. I get upset and frustrated but I do understand.

I am happy to share information about myself and help you with your discoveries however it would be nice if you were to take the lead and ask what you want to know. I could write a book for you and potentially miss out on giving you the information you were seeking. Everyone is at a different level of understanding and as beliefs are shed new light comes to surface.

You may find me answering with brief and to the point answers without much discussion because I am entering my busy season in everything I do so my time will be precious to me for the next 5 months. Please do not let that hold you back because I will not miss out on any opportunity to help a sincere person grow in knowledge and wisdom. I love it when a person shows real and solid interest.

David

by **Lunagirl** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:29 pm

Is there anyway else I can donate? I'm willing to donate more then 20 as of now and once I get paid I would like access to the whole forum. finding a little trouble getting a credit card but I will get one.
For my sake as of right now can you cure mono and genital herpes? Not yet asking for the cure just want to hear it from you that your information can in fact do what you say. I'll love to help you if you can help me.
Also have you ever trained anyone on the west coast like California? If your donations do increase what are your plans? I'd be more then happy to work with you if the opportunity ever occurs.
If your doing training now how is that going? Are any of your trainies on this site to share their input.
I'm curious to read the whole site and discus with you.
I know your time is precious thank you.

by **David** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:53 pm

Lunagirl wrote:Is there anyway else I can donate? I'm willing to donate more then 20 as of now and once I get paid I would like access to the whole forum. finding a little trouble getting a credit card but I will get one.
For my sake as of right now can you cure mono and genital herpes? Not yet asking for the cure just want to hear it from you that your information can in fact do what you say. I'll love to help you if you can help me.
Also have you ever trained anyone on the west coast like California? If your donations do increase what are your plans? I'd be more then happy to work with you if the opportunity ever occurs.
If your doing training now how is that going? Are any of your trainies on this site to share their input.
I'm curious to read the whole site and discus with you.
I know your time is precious thank you.

My work restores human immunity and the immune system will cure both mono and the disease known as genital herpes. When a person's immune system is restored to them they are disease free. Disease free means no more underlying cause for disease. There can be permanent damage left, like bad joints from long term arthritis or any other scarring from disease. In the case of the diseases known as Mono or HSV, both are cured without any scar or permanent damage. The drug information in the forum if for a drug that is the ONLY product that has a chance of curing the disease known as HSV, it will not cure every person as my own work and method will but it is the only product worth trying. People choose the drug because of it's convenience.

I do not have anyone trained on the west coast who is seeing people. I am not training anyone at the moment. I trained three individuals in July, one from New York, one from Utah and one from Kuwait. I hear from the one in NY who is working with others in order to build his confidence. I do not know how involved he or the other two will be.

As for other methods for donating, I don't see anything wrong with mailing cash. I would have trouble cashing a check because I don't have a bank account. If I did have money to put in a bank account I would travel to train. As is, I have to train around my 50 hour work week here locally which takes some of the joy out of it. Especially when those being trained cannot afford to donate or do not donate. When a person is trained, they no longer need me, their doctor or health insurance leaving little incentive for them to donate afterwards. That is a large part of the reason the medical industry does not cure diseases intentionally. Once you donate you will have access to the forum. I guess you could get a money order and make it payable to Walmart. Yes I shop a Walmart, not because I like Walmart but because it is the most affordable leaving no other choice.

I have a suspicion that most of my trainees will be using their new found knowledge, talent and abilities to for their own personal use and for their close friends and family. That is partially my fault for discovering immunity but with out a way to capitalize from it.

by **Lunagirl** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:30 pm

Is there anyway I can reach you via email or phone.
I have everything ready to make donation. I need to speak further with you.

by **David** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:57 pm

Lunagirl wrote:Is there anyway I can reach you via email or phone.
I have everything ready to make donation. I need to speak further with you.

Click on the donate button and you will see my email address on top.

by **David** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:04 am

I follow the performance of this forum closely. It can tell me a lot that my readers and members cannot tell me. It shows me the peak seasons for the disease known as "herpes" and it also shows me when people register but do not take the step to donate to gain full access to the forum and I find it necessary to understand why.

I can't imagine people dismissing my integrity or credibility because it is impossible for anyone reading the general public information here and dispute it. You cannot deny the reason or logic of my information so what keeps people from contributing and becoming involved with the truth? Is the donation price too high or is it you think you can get the information and knowledge from somewhere else without making a donation?

PLEASE TAKE TWO SECONDS and tell me which it is or if it is something else. Your participation will be greatly appreciated. You do not even have to create an account, just hit reply and comment.

by **Lost** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:33 am

Hi,

I have been interested in your forum, but also by the route you have taken of accepting donations before people recieve the valuble information. I understand that people need to live, but at the same time there are those who simply just dont have that money.

With-holding information, keeping information restricted for the purpose of profit is exactly what the medical industry is doing today...

Now im not judging you at all, i am simply calling out what I see.... Would you be willing to share this information for free, with the simple interest of helping people, while at the sametime showing the control of the corporate medical industry?

Kindest of regards,

Lost

by **David** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:31 pm

Lost wrote:Hi,

I have been interested in your forum, but also by the route you have taken of accepting donations before people receive the valuable information. I understand that people need to live, but at the same time there are those who simply just don't have that money.

With-holding information, keeping information restricted for the purpose of profit is exactly what the medical industry is doing today...

Now im not judging you at all, i am simply calling out what I see.... Would you be willing to share this information for free, with the simple interest of helping people, while at the same time showing the control of the corporate medical industry?

Kindest of regards,

Lost

I totally agree with you. I hate to demand donations but there is no free venue to share the information I share. I use to have it all posted on hubpages but they were forced to remove my hubs once I posted the information that exposed the fact that there is no scientific or logical evidence to prove there is a "herpes" virus. When it became clear that fungus is the cause of outbreaks not some elusive "virus" and that fungus is easily cured I posted the means to cure it on my hubs and that is not permitted on hubpages. I tried to remove all the information I thought was breaking hubpage rules, if rewrote my hubs in hopes that they would publish them again but in the end, their stance was "I contradicted medical science" and that is not allowed. I asked them to give an example of how I contradict any REAL science of any kind and they refused to give an example. Clearly they were given no choice but to ban my information.

I was not surprised but pretty disappointed. Hubpages was the only place that didn't automatically ban my information leaving me now with just my forum and this forum cost me both considerable time and money. My goal in life was or is to teach you the truth about your immune system and how you are intended to have complete immunity to all diseases. My work cures people of the disease they inappropriately refer to as "herpes" but with the discovery of outbreaks being nothing more than fungal infections it lead to discovering the drug that will also cure outbreaks and now there is no real need for my own work, work I dedicated my life to.

I require some funding for the forum and I appreciate funding for my work with immunity. Furthermore I find justification knowing that you all have spent hundreds of dollars on gimmick products and lies and will continue to spend more if my information isn't heeded. People do not hesitate to spend money on doctors and products but when it comes to funding the truth people become less grateful. I had my forum wide open to the public for many many months but the donations were not sufficient to fund the forum.

It is very unlikely a person will donate after they have what they need to be cured. Some do. But most do not.

By demanding donations first it serves multiple purposes. First and foremost it makes people think. I don't want to share any of my hard work with sheeple, people who rely on BELIEF, testimonies and other bogus marketing practices that seldom if ever lead to any productive outcome other than corrupt profit. Also there is the fact that I do still teach people how to heal without products, technology or gimmicks and sometimes those people are also struggling for funding to travel and spend a few weeks training so donations help with that.

Most who donate simply want to get the pill and be cured. They have no intentions of ever telling anyone else about how easily they were cured yet I am expected to tell everyone. So here I am, a one man show taking on the whole industry of medicine and a corrupt government so you can be cured. And though I respect your idea I can only hope you and others will not begrudge funding my efforts for the sake of a much bigger picture. I would like you to keep in mind I developed a cure for fungus without the need of drugs before I discovered the drugs. And one other thing to remember, there is nothing keeping my members from posting the inside information anywhere else. I encourage them to do so, copy and past my whole forum, I don't care. If someone else will take up the cause I will move onto to something more suitable to my talents, like curing deadly diseases.

by **David** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:18 pm

Lost, here is a another real sad reality, if died today in a car accident or decided to just quit, the fraud known as "herpes" would once again be COMPLETELY incurable.

There is no one else willing do what I do without reward. I am a minimalist and I survive off of almost nothing. I'm 43 years old and because I dedicated the last 20 some odd years to curing you I have nothing for retirement, nothing in social security, no home and no car. I receive food stamps, $200 a month. I report the donations from this forum and they are never enough to get me disqualified to receive assistance.

There simply is no getting around popular BELIEF. People BELIEVE if I could cure the fraudulent disease known as "herpes" I would be wealthy but how can you cure people if the cure contradicts their BELIEF? It is also BELIEVED I would be dead if I could cure diseases said to be incurable, but why would THEY kill me if I cannot change people's BELIEFS so that they can be cured? People BELIEVE I would be famous if I could cure what is known as "herpes" or other serious diseases but WHO will give me notoriety at the cost of the world economy? Let me give you a personal example on a smaller scale. There is a food process plant right next door to me who is fighting the city over sewer fees and consequently running all their waste into a sludge pond and it can be smelled from miles away and the plant is right here in TOWN. It is bad enough to make a person gag and a smell you just can't get use to. I personally can hire attorneys that would break their necks to come down and end the smell so we can open our windows but no one wants to get on board because people might loose their jobs at the plant. Not likely they would lose their jobs but you can never tell so people don't want to get on board and I will be the asshole if I continue.

The same goes for herpes or cancer, who wants to expose the fraud if millions will lose their jobs?

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